Humorix, Here are a couple for wings here ar renderosity There was one for a bike wheel, but I dont know where I got it If I find out I'll let you know. On the Modeling forum: Bad ear tutorial for Poppi TRAVISB's quadruped tutorial for Wings3d by BazC Tutorials: Modelling a simple space ship in Wings3D by Draculaz. As far as Marble clay goes just registering it is some sort of an intelligence test and Metasequoia is one I dld' but never got to try it. You might also check out the free version of Truespace 3. cheers, - TJ