This debate is an old one and I guess, will continue to be brought up every now and then. I stand with yulia and bonni on this one. Oh and April. All very eloquently put their point across. I am a member at Epilogue and proud to be so. I first stumbled onto the website when looking for a tutorial almost 2 yrs ago. I have been a member since then and submitting my work for just a little over a yr. My gallery is quite small compared to most and I continue to submit. I use Poser, Bryce and Vue as well as Painter and Photoshop. To me they are just digital art tools! I have had too many rejections to count but that doesn't bother me... it pushes me forward. There are some very anal people there but no more than in any other artist community! shrug Generally, the editors and staff are fairly giving of their time and creative processes. There is a lot of learning done over there. There are a small hand-ful of loud anti-poser voices but no different than the loud pro-poser voices who seem to do more harm than good in the "accepting poser models as a digital art tool" debate! imho. It should just be about learning and producing quality art. It will always be subjective but there is a general standard and set of rules they use for reviewing art regardless of the medium. And that's what's important. Most of the editors look at the overall image in terms of composition, lighting, anatomy (if relevent), colour use etc.. etc... and that's the case whether you have used poser, bryce, vue or just done a "from scratch" painting in photoshop. Who cares what tools you used? How good is the finished piece?? Just my thoughts on the subject :)