Wow, thanks for all the nice replies. PJF is not involved with this, I don't know where his name came up. The parties in question are: BlackUnicorn natacha DreadWolf So far This started when I pointed out plaigerism in one of his renders... I had seen this car before, but since I couldn't remember where I just posted that It was not made in bryce unlike the image description said %100 bryce by him. Prior to that, a few posts down in the Hot 20 topic I just was curious as to how the image with someone elses car rendered on a mirrored plane with two basic trees and a default sky got into the top 20. At that point I didn't even remember who had done it, simply a passing remark in a longer reply... I had no idea it would get this blown out of the water. I got another message, I have NO idea how he got this kind of meaning from my reply but dreadwolf stated " Instant Message from DreadWolf: LOOK LIKE WE GONNA HAVE FUN... CANADIANS VS KILLER AMERICAN (Sent 10/17 20:47)" I've contacted spike, awaiting a reply. I hope this will get resolved soon.