I have ... I've tried it at least a dozen times now. That's why I am asking for all the other settings. My terrains always end up to "spikey" and the curves are not gradual enough ... I end up with "splashes" and such. I've done everything to the letter and even experimented with some of the values, nothing works. At this point, it would be a lot easier just to fire up After Effects, use Atomic's Psunami plug-in, and then comp my stuff together. I can get great motion then too. That's probably what I should have done from the begining. Just thought it would be fun in Vue ... WRONG. -Tim -Tim