Butch- if you have not installed any patch yet (still on 4.0) then yes, install 4.0.3, there are enough bug fixes over 4.0 that it's worth it. (or install the older 4.0.2 manual patch, don't use the 4.0.2 auto patch), you'll get the same bug fixes/bug additions, except for the Logo and updated weblinks) If you've already installed 4.0.2, then don't bother with 4.0.3. Marque- Are you saying that your 4.0.3 will let you save custom UI settings? I.E. change the size of the document window, or the position of the tool windows etc? Or just your choice of figure to start up with? I'll be insanely jealous if you can save your custom UI and have Poser 4.0.3 load it correctly, without having to click on a UI dot to get it back. Regards- Lemurtek