Bluetone, I set up the mountains just by moving them until they looked okay. They are terrains with one of the new preset shaders applied to them . The haze was applied in the atmosphere settings to give the image some depth. The Birds are very quick Sub D models I did in C3. Congrats on the baby . Bickermouse , yes I definitely need to get better at creating the terrains and texturing them.Something to work on in the future. Thanks for the comments. Regards Mike