Ronstuff, you have perfectly articulated what I suspect many of us already feel. I understand that poser originated as a tool for 2D painting, but there has definitely been an evolution away from that towards photorealistic content that was previously possible only with higher end apps (max, maya, lw). If you look at the Poser Hot 20, it is extremely narrow and lacking in diversity. Although there is great art there, it is by no means 3D. My interest is in 3D modelling, mapping and rendering. Im here for learning and support, not value judgements and uninformed criticism based on style. If you turn it around, it would be like me starting a thread about how the poser hot 20 is boring because all the images are flat looking and have no appeal to 3D artists. Which is technically true, but ignorant. :)