Dave-So: Since you asked, I'll tell... I think your image above is a good example of a Poser WIP and shows a lot of promise, but as I've seen some of your other work, I'd also say that it is far from "finished art" and hardly represents the real potential of Poser - and I'm sure you are aware of that. ;-) In fact at this point, there are at least two distinct paths that this work could take: 1) You could call the Poser part done and bring what you have into a 2D paint program to create a very nice 2D piece of art. OR 2) you could continue to work within Poser to enhance this work with morphs (magnets or otherwise) lighting, atmosphere, additional background or props to bring this to a final work of 3D Poser art. Either way you could make a nice piece of art but each would be quite different from the other due to the inherent advantages and limitations of the medium. Nobody would question whether either might deserve to be called art. That is not the issue. The question is which of the two paths is faithful to Poser and deserves to be representative of that medium? I realize that some people don't care about whatever tools are used to create a work - I happen to agree that the tool does not create the Art, but the tool definitely does AFFECT the art and therefor is a valid criteria for sorting and categorizing the larger realm which includes ALL art. The question is, why do people who SAY they don't care about such distinctions continue to INSIST on putting their work in the Poser gallery rather than the Mixed Media or some other gallery if they REALLY don't care? We don't find this type of infiltration in the Truespace, C4D, Bryce and Vue galleries, why is it so common in the Poser category -- especially by people who say they don't really care? Well, maybe that question answers itself, huh? ;-) As for the issue of who made what, I don't think it matters that much. This image is composed of readily available and fairly inexpensive Poser items. I visualized, composed and rendered in Poser - nothing more. Even so, I doubt that there are very many here who could duplicate it even if I gave them the elements. Is it ART? -- maybe. Is it distinctly MINE -- definitely! And THAT is what is really important.