LOL! Don't bother with ryamka, people (although I certainly appreciate the support) - I don't mind the name calling, it's mostly amusing. I've already apologised, this thing is of the past, let's get on with Poser! And boy it would take a LOT to get me to take my stuff and push off! :o) I don't push easy. ----------------------------------- Some history: The reason I react strongly (sometimes incorrectly! lol) to anything I perceive as censorship is: I grew up in South Africa under the Apartheid regime. In the 60's and 70's. Massive, draconian censorship was the order of the day. Both political, of course, and moral. The SA State Church (Calvinist Protestant) didn't allow TV until 1974 (!!) because, quote, "It is the work of the Devil". In '74 I started my 2 years of forced military service. Being a pacifist was no argument. 5 years in jail was the only alternative. Well I might tend to agree on another level about the Devil thing now that I have access to TV lol, but that's another story. Their standpoint was a 'moral' one, had nothing to do with program quality....... And anything even resembling a nude nipple was STRICTLY forbidden. For instance: ownership of a single issue of something as innocent as a 60's Playboy was a serious offence when I was a teenager.... If found out it put you in a courtroom before a judge, under the 'Indecency Act', scandal, name in newspapers, possibly even a prison sentence..... probably lose your job. Counted out as a pervert and an agent of the Devil. And having a personal relationship with anyone of a different skin colour was totally UNTHINKABLE! But I did that anyway.... which is how I learnt to hate the police. Still have trouble with that even now. So growing up with all that, you get kind of sensitive to anyone imposing their rules on you. Simple :o) :] Fish