"PS My apologies for my lateness on this issue, I've spent the last two days dissecting a 15 year old VW engine" It must be the nearness of Hallowe'en (and the lateness of the night)... but when I read that, I thought of the "hamster's wheel" Cooler posted at 3dc and wondered about ghosts of long-dead hamsters haunting the VW, frustrated because the parts had rusted and nothing they could do would make them turn again. :sniff: Carolly