Just a note (since it seems that ATI cards have caused some problems), ATI is known for making really really bad drivers. Even if your system is stable with all your other software, it can still have problems with one particular software (such as Vue). Still, not really Vue's fault. But, also note that updating to the latest ATI drivers can be a step backward rather than forward (I'm speaking from experience here). Hey, their head office and lab is about a 20 minute drive from my house....maybe I should drive up and give them a piece of my mind (usually good cards, but bad bad drivers). -karl