Thanks, you were around here back then, I remember you.. What happened to litst as the moderator? Kixum got the job? Cool! I'm going to be using Carrara more everyday than I ever did before, I recently got my dream job, as the Assistant to Adverting/Marketing/Design for sickworld.com. And my boss was really psyched that I knew Carrara, he needed someone to do a bunch of 3D work. He had seen work done in Carrara and loved it, so needless to say, Carrara is going to pay the bills. I've used it professionally in the past, but I never dreamed I'd be getting paid everyday to use it. So, how is the stability, did they revamp it and get all those little bugs out? I'm really interested in the rendering, since 80% of what I use it for is texturing and rendering. I really like the rendering in v2. I do a lot of my modeling in Rhino, but has the modeling changed, I know it doesn't have NURBS yet, but have they drastically improved it? I've read all the stuff at eovias site, but I need to hear it from the real people out there using it. Just for the record, I have always been a devout lover of Carrara, since the day it came out, look at my old posts, I use to defend it to the death.. Should I save my money, or is it worth the money? Thanks kaom