And people wonder why I usually use 1 or 2 characters in a scene... I use P5 almost exclusivly. I don't try big scenes. I don't use the hair or face rooms. I delete all the P4 poses when I have PP versions so I don't wait to load a .bum file that doesn't exist. I don't do animations. P5 works for me because I don't do the things I know will break it. You know, a little LESS THAN HALF OF THE PRODUCT. I use the cloth room lots. I love the material room. I even like the Firefly renderer when I'm not using something I know will hang it up. I couldn't live without the directory management. You know, a little LESS THAN HALF THE PRODUCT! Notice the two parts don't add up to the total? That's because of the most useless feature in the whole program: Content Paradise. You know, Renderosity access with a crummy search engine. Notice that all the other providers are still "Coming Soon" after over a year. Must not be worth the work to either remove them from the link or to actually make them work. Of course, it'd be fine if I knew they would follow the promises they'd made in the past, but Marc won't deliver what was promised. There is another service release coming, but we don't know what'll be in it. Most of the things that were promised in P5 are now being promised for P6. Better stability in P6. You bet I'm waiting for Studio to come out. CL has crpped on me one too many times. Studio may not do everything I want, but at least it comes from a company I've come to respect for their customer service, and Daz has never lied to me. Sorry for the rant. I'm still pssed at them after a year. I hate to be cheated. I'll try to be better in the future. Big Smile! Joy joy...happy, happy...