ChaosOutlaw, I'm astounded you posted this thread here, after resisting any attempts DAZ made in their own forum to offer solutions, remedies or help. You have plenty of excuses not to cooperate in finding solutions or remedies. You don't want to waste your time, etc. I hate to say it, but this thread, in addition to the DAZ thread leaves me wondering about your true motives. You're a newbie, and are having problems? Do you think maybe you have more to learn?