'As being a newbie a while back....I lurked & got the feel for how things work before I chimed in on anything. And even now I pick my discussions carefully. However...I'm sure I'll be flamed somehow for this post for exaggerating, but I'm just trying to make a point' Nope, dlk. I don't think you'd be flamed for speaking out in a polite and sensible manner. Very well put. mac