Thanks guys, I mispelled the website, it's http://www.sikworld.com Yeah, I think I can talk my boss into springing for it.. I'll be getting him to download the demo and try it on monday.. It's still the best thing around for the money. The UV mapping would be nice, and the subdivision modeling would be a real nice feature.. Well if all goes well, it should be coming my way.. And if my chance he won't spring for it, I'm still gonna have to buy it.. Thanks, I just wanted to make sure, because I was extrememly disappointed when I bought Bryce 5.. It's too bad Bryce is going to be extinct..