oy .. can you guys TELL when I have a mssive toothache and am doped on codiene for two days or what? Well ..Chaos as you noted you were way out of line, in several different ways. Ex Army ranger or not, there is no excuse for certain behaviour. Expect email from site admins shortly. As for everyone else? keep it civil people. I'm in serious pain here and am more than happy to spread it around a bit. Lyrra the Extremely Ouchy