Gee, I dont know Drac, if people IMed you or sent you email in private, I would tend to believe that they didnt want to turn the situation into a public circus out of respect for everyone concerned but now here you come along and make it public anyway. So I must have to ask you, what was the sense for those people to IM or email you in the first place? Im certainly glad I wasnt one of those people who emailed you, otherwise I would feel offended that this couldnt have been taken care of between us in private like mature adults. Certainly theres no call for hate mail and such, or for people to become hostile since the original thread pretty much speaks for itself and I personally dont see any reason for a follow-up discussion, its opened and shut. Im sure there was at least one person offended and I would think that would have been the person who originally started the thread when they suddenly found himself or herself in front of the software inquisition and I couldnt very well blame them for feeling like theyve been singled out. Drac, just let me say that at first, I had no clue at what you were driving at in your post. When you made your accusations and spewed your assumptions concerning the software piracy issue, you were most definitely off base. If software piracy is a sticking point with you, then, by all means open an Off Topic thread somewhere and let it all hang out. I understand that software piracy is a big issue but to come out from left field without any evidence whatsoever and make personal accusations is not really the way to receive a newbie or anyone else for that matter into our forum. You have no idea of what people can or cant afford to have! You kind of left me wondering who had died and made this guy the software police? What grants this fellow the authority to even pretend that hes on some esteemed graphics plateau, some pinnacle somewhere overseeing and passing judgments on people and whos using what software to do what with and why? How people get their software and what they do with it, is not really anyones concern unless, of course, youre undercover and working for the FEDs. So yeah, if the accused person had been me, you would have most definitely heard from me. I cant say as I blame them, but hate mail? I wouldnt have wasted my time spouting hate especially over such petty stuff. As far as asking people to bite you, who dont agree with you, well, lets see, thats about as mature as silly puddy.