Yes, but pidjy, you can generate terrains in max, I'm pretty sure you just apply a height map to an image of your choice. As for procedural textures with elevation, there are probably plugins that can 'help' with that, but really everything is included in max. Secondly, any max user knows that terragen (free) is a far better terrain exporter than bryce. Both resolution and feature wise. That's its sole purpose. I think drac's point is a valid one, it's something that buggers me too. A: 3dsm users wouldn't dare ask questions in a bryce forum, wouldn't it be more intelligent to ask other 3dsm users who are more likely to have bryce, than bryce users to have 3dsm. nevermind I'm not going on because I don't want to end up in the dog-house again. The whole situation is fishy, and i only suggest the other thread get deleted because we don't want more immature unintelligent 15 year olds 'buying' 3dsm from various unmentionable establishments.