Howdy Kaom, Long time, no hassel. Good to see you back. The picture should clarify most of it. If I remember from your earlier post, you're not using C3 yet so you'll have to go the Illustrator route (which is how I created the example). Another option that I didn't show to create a really rounded/bubble bevel logo is using the Terrain Modeler. In Photoshop or PhotoPaint have a white logo on a black bacground, select the white areas and the blur. This will allow the black to gently creep into the white areas but will keep the edges crisp. Save off as a tiff or jpeg and import as a height map into the Terrarain Modeler. Mark