You know, Drac, some of the things you say can be so incredibly insightful, so full of, I daresay, wisdom. One look at your gallery shows you to be a fantastic artist, one that I admire a great deal. But then.... then you open your mouth and come out with something so completely boorish that I have to say I am ashamed to be on the same forum with you. Tell me, (and I know I'm going to regret asking this) but what exactly is your beef here? That someone may have downloaded their software for free, as opposed to being an upright citizen and plunking down the cash for it? Yeah software piracy sucks, and the only people paying for it are folks that DO buy their software, (ie. higher purchase costs, etc.), but here's a newsflash for you: accusing someone of being a thief, and then implying that they have no business in trying to learn a software package is not only silly and accomplishes nothing except to scare off a person that may be truly passionate about the art they are trying to learn, it is downright mean. I'm sure you get a nice warm feeling when you hit the render button, knowing that your programs are legally paid for. But if I may ask, is the art you create any more valid, any more 'artistic' than something made with pirated software?