I agree that this guy is being very abusive to Ornlu... If it were me... I would render a very swift boot of learning to the seat of education and eliminate the guy from Renderosity permanently. People like that are out to do nothing but to cause trouble. So to eliminate the problem there is only one solution. BAN THE TROUBLE MAKER.....PERMANENTLY! I missed out on what happened but just read that thread. I think I can say without a doubt that Ornlu had none of that coming..... yep no doubt in my mind. Didn't even have to think about it. Wade

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who know binary, and those who don't. 

A whiner is about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest.