well AS... I only have one "knob". ;-) LOL ** shakes head .. can't believe I just went there ** when I was stationed in England with the USAF .. I too found it odd that they had one faucet for cold water and one for hot water. I thought about the fill the sink to wash the hands, but then it comes the time to rinse them and the same story applies, do I freeze them then scald .. or scald first then freeze. I usually did the fast back-n-forth method. Drac, it does take a big man to admit a faux pas. You have my respect for it. I too sometimes wonder about the piricy. I mean you have a 14 yo kid looking for tutorials for Maya, Cinema, Lightwave, etc because he just bought them .. like yeah, right I believe that one. It is possible, but I highly doubt they were purchased, more likely they were "accuired". bob