Making apologies, or even outright denials, and wasting effort concocting scenarios to disprove a widely reported problem, Please don't do that, OK? This is getting dangerously close to personal accusations. rather than spending the five minutes that I spent this morning confirming it (plus another 30 minutes or so revising the technique so that anyone could reproduce it) You do realize that I let both of my computers render for hours trying to reproduce that? Just like I spent hours answering questions and solving other people's problems on this boards? is a disservice to, not a favour for, CL (as well as being extremely poor engineering practice). I do not represent CL. Associating my personal opinions with CL is the quickest way to get me out of this board - this is how some members here made Nosfiratuu and DefaultGuy leave.