btw i would need two things from people here: 1) some explanations of the basics of paint/postwork softwares regarding color correction and adjustings... I need it for one of the step of my thing, i still ofen manage it myself but with so many manipulations it is insane each time... 2) someone with knowledge about the workings of sketching modes of poser 4... 3) (because i do not know how to count :) I relaly need very deep insides and explanations of poser ligthing :( (such as global illumination tricks, and such) so far i reduced the method (basic, at least) to 6 layers, and only 3 different poser renders of same scene. Sometimes you may need a fourth, and maybe 1 or 2 layers :( I wish i could simplify it. Also depending on the picture it is easier or harder to achieve. Use of textured clothes are still tricky.