Ok maybe I have just gotten lucky here but I am having no problems at all under Panther. I am using Vue Pro though. Dont know if that makes a difference at all. Anyway, it has been working fine for me, even the updater works. I also tried a test to recreate the open/save problem that texboy stated and it worked fine for me. So I dont know if it's something to do with me using Vue Pro or I just have gotten lucky so far.