Spider1313: I've had the exact same problem over the last two weeks or so, everything works perfectly (well as perfect as vue 4 is) except the rocks, if I try to resize or worse group and resize, then the whole thing comes tumbling down. I'm on a 1.7ghz 1gb mem running XP pro. I've just got hold of VuePro so I don't think I'll be messing about with Vue4 for a while, but I feel for ya.