Ok..I am now feeling really sorry for BabaLouie. Ask how a MAC works..and well..the age old debate starts!! : ) :) ALWAYS! :) Now that you've heard it all..have you decided to buy a mac still?? Or has the forum sent you in a spin that would need all the spirals in the bryce world to create how you feel? :) PS..(sneaky whisper..macs are better..shshshs...)