s-lord said: --Scott, I really didn't mean to offend YOU personally, and haven't meant to attack anyone's character, but check this out: (then he quoted my earlier repost of his quote) and concluded with: ...Maybe I'm full of shit, but don't let me stop YOU from being an asshole!-- First of all I am not an a-hole and by pigeon-holing all Mac users (I am one myself) into no brain, lazy users who could care less about performance and only like shiny plastic you HAVE offended me personally. I am an educated user who likes choice, knows how to code and operate on MANY machines - UNIX, Windows, Macintosh, and IBM Mainframes to name a few and also craves performance by the sheer virtue of being a 3d artist. So yes you did offend me and many other Mac users by your inflammatory statements. I never called you a name - I said that statement about shiny plastic was full of crap and I stand by it. We Mac users are not mindless dolts who don't know what is going on in our boxes and for you to assume this is the biggest (and most mis-informed) insult of all. As far as speed goes - I want near realtime test renders. This will take a machine that runs at about 100Ghz - and that won't be happening any time soon. Until then no machine is fast enough and I see benchmarks for what they are: clever marketing made to sell more PCs or Macs. Scott