no in fact i tested them on all pretreen/preschool from daz (boy adn girl), adn the universal worked on v2, p4, preteen boy/girl and preschool boy/girl.. but on P4 (i precise that because many p5 users reported problems with my MAT file poses...) anyway yes it is nice, i only saw them used on faery characters before (regarding the pt thing) thanx for the pic