I have returned from the Apple store and I must say that I am completely impressed with the G5. It was very difficult to walk out of the Apple store without one. This has got to be the most thoroughly integragted system that I have ever seen, the Panther software is absolutely amazing. I spent 2 hours playing with a G5 and the software that comes loaded on it. This is one fast and beautiful piece of equipment. I opened the side panel up, the salesperson did not get nervous though, well not until I took out my screwdriver. :) Nice and clean on the inside, well thought out. Beautiful aluminum exterior. I now understand why Mac people talk about the 'experience' and 'feel' of a Mac, for those of you who are adamant Windows users, open your mind up, go to a Apple store and see for yourself. Yep, I am a new Mac convert.... I have seen the Light and now all is clear. :) take care, BabaLouie