Paul and Caly thanks ... For those who have not been in an Apple Store, it is certainly an experience. The one I visited probably had 12 or so of the Apple laptops on display and powered up, G5s and other systems as well, a kids corner, software and hardware sections all in a big open area, plenty of room to amble about. One kid on a laptop had a shootem up on the laptop and on one of the G5 systems as well, he was wanting me to play against him, I knew better thought. :) A person could very easily spend a lot of time in there, again and again and again ..... BabaLouie