hey veritas, thanks for your words... I certainly would like to see more people using the DOAeyes on their characters... I guess the main trick is ona ctually how much to tweak the characters' eyes in order to make the DOAeyes look properly... because the milgirl here, when i just put riddokun's eyes on her, she looked like a freak!! the iris filled almost her whole eyes! so, then thanks whoever for the alien eyes, I started tweaking the dials... here's what you might want to consider, it's the main dials I use for making those big eyes: -alien eyes -eyes width -eyes closer (or close, something like that) -slant eyes -eyes round -eyes corner down play with those dials until you get eyes big enough for your taste. and I'm downloaind the bengal tiger... let's see how that turns out! Max