I agree that limiting the number of images sent in would make it easier on our already hard working mods, so they can have time to actually enjoy the site as much as we out here in dreamlnad do. As for the challenge "surrealism", I feel that some photoshoping might be necessary for some folks (like myself) to finsh off an image. I have an idea in the works that will need some cloning to take out a coat hanger supporting the subject and unless I reshoot, a tree top. I understand the dilema concerning how far can one go untill one crosses the line between a "photo" and a 2d image, but where does one draw the line? Just curious.... Jack