well, couldn't put it any better then zhounder just did, & would like to see the challenge limited to 3-5 would also like to get back to critquing more, there is so much to look at & a lot of it is just soooo good, hard to be too critical good point on the surreal becoming too 2D or MM, i've been close on that myself, we'll just have to see where it goes & hope everyone uses good judgement like moni said michelle, i'm amazed at all you do, you have the hardest challenge of all & anything we can do to help you just name it! :]