well if you're taking my wishes let's say slightly made up for a girl about 19 years old, i want some little wrinkles around the eyes, and pores of the skin to be visible, so it's got to be extremely large and highly detailed 3072 or 4096 don't waste time on the lips, i already have some :-) if you want to check my "Photorealistic Texture" in freestuff i posted for vicky, you have the things i want, just with lower detail and unreal skin little freckles on the nose would be ok like its in the rendering of paul hafeli some posts earlier thats kind of exactly what i need :-) -Ede