Thank you for the advanced info looks like I need to get my hands dirty in file goo then I guess. Is this a common issue ? I have all of the V3 and V3M inj sets its all DAZ3d for V3 I have. I just got around to installing and playing with her. I went to pop in the INJ all head set when I discovered the issue.Next I tried one set for the head at a time with no luck. only head inj's seem affected. Thanks again Jaager!