Word from DAZ is that this was originally a Platium Club sale only. When they considered that they hadn't offered significant sales to non-PC members for awhile, they decided to extend the sale to everyone. Anton's perspective goes a long way to flesh out how this probably happened. DAZ meant to do a nice thing. In my opinion, expecting a total 80% off is a bit much, especially considering that the current 50% off is better than the standard 30% off for PC members. On the other hand, membership benefits as stated do clearly say that PC members would get 30% off in addition to any existing sale. So, it's ultimately in how you argue it. My argument is this: For renewing, I recently received the Hydra and The Freak base for free, and will soon receive the base mesh for Stephanie Petite for free. Pretty darn hard to complain when you add it all up! :-) But I do understand where you and others are coming from, Dave. Not arguing, just another view. Dean