Yup, I've tried both Geep's and Traveler's magnets tutorials and I'm one of those brain challenged folks who just don't get it. sigh Same sort of problem I had with calculus - just can't seem to wrap my brain around it. Did fine up through Trig, but calc finally whupped my butt. :) Glad you like the Katie/Kate and Justine. Those textures, sad to say, aren't from scratch. They're just modified versions of the ones that came with Poser. Skin from scratch is another thing I can't seem to get the hang of. Clothes I can do, though. And walls. And furniture. But not hair. Can't get hair to turn out right yet, but I'm workin' on it. Kate