mike:Vicky did you get your pictures yet? Vicky: don't know yet I fell asleep while opening the gallery lol I'm sorry I'm sure your trying your best to solve this but............ maybe newer software and more than one server is the option needed does trhe forum really need to be run from within the main site? the galery Too? deversify the sites by spreading the visitors those that want pics on one forum on another etc that way everyone has faster access to what the want to see or do (just a sugestion)