Aye, Quest, well i wa sgoing to use the Corvette model from the 'Net, but after reading your post and having just got out of Rhino, almost finisheing my dragon head, I feel that a ship is NOT too large an undertaking.... I'm gonna go for it, although the ship will only be ONE element in the scene, you are correct Quest. There is NO deadline for this image, it's going to be wonderful... Thanks for the support, everyone!