Thanks for the tips Mark. I have tried to apply depth of field earlier for the last few months but it always looks weird..Does the Carrara bible talk about doing this? I think I read on the egroups list that Carrara accidently had its depth of field settings backwards...I'll have to do some test renders. Hopefully by the end of the day I'll have some time to post up that open animation..its 20 secs of cheese but there will be a couple secs of it that may find its way into my resume :) -remember...as long as your project has about 3 secs that can look good on your resume then its a successful project!