frown I became a member of this online society just as the name was changing from Poser Forum to Renderosity. Some people from that time period are still hanging out here. I've been more a less a lurker for the last year and half due to deaths and the family and the legaalities that follow that. But I've been getting back into Poser art and working at it again. I'm really not happy about this suddenly 'nifty' idea of one post per day and paying for used to be the norm for posting for several years. It's already in effect so there's not much my comment will do except to say, I'm just not wild about it. Liz Pope Dreamspinner