That's the truth. Check out some of the stuff at http://io.spaceports.com/~jstawarz/Gallery (copy & paste or type EXACTLY what you see. Spaceports is UNIX and VERY unforgiving about capitalizations ... :) Some of the ones on the Gallery #1 page are the first EVER 3D scenes that I did. In fact, Where the Sea Begins (1st row, last thumb) is the VERY first one that I did. And amazingly enough, it's got NO post work done on it... :) Now, admittedly, I haven't put anything new up there in a while (got Diablo II, who has time for Bryce? Or web page updates for that matter? :) And all of those are what came out of just fiddling with it for the most part.