Well, megalodon, I'm glad you're happy debugging and beta-testing a product you paid for. When people begin to get complacent like that, then buggy software becomes the standard for makers to produce. So, having pounced on Flycatcher about how much more complicated Vue P is than your standard run-of-the-mill software packages and using that as a hint he (we) shouldn't expect the software to be "perfect" (i.e., expect errors), how, then, was Newtek able to produce a program much more complicated (IMO) than Vue P and yet have fewer complaints? If you tell me it is (was) due to being a bigger company and having more employees, then I'd say that's no excuse...a company should bite off more than they can chew. The "I'm a small company with a small budget...please take pity on my product as we weren't able to designate adequate resources to its development" excuse doesn't cut it with me. Frankly, as a citizen (translation, lowest common demoninator, the "sheep"), I'm a bit tired of being fleeced.