Judith: I will definately be contacting those with the orc for the upgrade. With the upgrade the only things that obviously won't be compatible any longer will be the old textures. The poses, clothes, armour, hair, etc will still be applicable. I just need to repackage the Orc base package and then the upgrade package...should be contacting everyone this week. The UV's are super sweet on it too. :) Rebekah