I am not sure why this works, but when I am trying to get in and have tried all my backdoors, I open up AIM and type the address into a message to a friend (or use any message program). Sometimes it seems to work from there...I know, I know, it makes no sense. Last year for some reason I went about 2 weeks of having problems getting into Renderosity and the "message" trick worked every so often for me. Diane (who will most likely now be known as the silly old lady)