E-on said when they released the latest update that it did not support cloth (or hair). In fact, their web site still says that: "Certain features such as hair and cloth are not supported in this release." Can you use both PP and P5 at the same time with update? I was told at the time of the release that you had to choose one or the other, at the time you ran the patch. (Because it only looks in one directory for textures and such.) The only way to switch directories (i.e., versions of Poser) was to run the update patch again. Plants...at the moment, the plants available within Vue itself are very limited, and you can't make your own. I gather the new, more expensive version lets you make your own vegetation, but the $99 version doesn't. They've promised to make more species available at their web site, some for free, some for $10, but so far, there isn't much. Vue can import trees and such made with XFrog and other programs. If you look in Free Stuff, you'll see a few nice plants made for Vue. And you can of course import any trees and such made for Poser.