Just to add to the confusion, I've just received a mail shot from Eovia. It makes special upgrade and sidegrade offers to Carrara Studio 3, plus a separate Poser 5 sidegrade from any Eovia product. The cost of the Poser 5 sidegrade is 199 (incl. VAT) plus 10 post and package. As this was addressed to me as an "Eovia user", it looks as though it even applies to registered users of one of the free versions of Amapi that were issued on various cover disks not so long ago - that'c certainly the only product of theirs that I own. I have yet to confirm that, but it could be another interesting alternative way to purchase Poser 5. If any other UK user in a similar position wants to check up on the situation re the free Amapi versions, there is a phone number of 01526 352524, or email frank@eovia.com, or I guess visit the web site at www.eovia.com