Useing Dali's melting clock as an example (Don't think he used Poser);-). I like highly realistic techy models (the clock),but I think we must also remember the artistry that goes into the clock face,hands,case textures etc. in my example or the lace,body tex,hair,period clothing in other examples. Then I, a non-techy artist can take the techy/arty clock and make yet more art (put in scene & melt clock etc.). I like techy/arty models with lots of variation and tricks, so i can beat the techy/arty model into submission and make it do more what I want,while maintaining the degree of "realism" I desire in my piece. Surrealism Rocks!!! Strixowl